S2E19 - Podcasting from the Closet and Scott Strips on Mic (not on Mike)

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No, I'm not gonna upgrade my stupid Riverside service, you bastard. Yeah, I. I'm already paying for more than I want for you guys. But so, yeah, like, normally there's, like, a little bit of chatter before we start these, but today we're not gonna do that too much.

We didn't record. We chattered. We just didn't record it.

Sorry, everyone. Hello, and welcome to behind the Locked Doors, a tiny closet podcast. Sometimes where everybody is in the closet.

Scott, do you have something you want to talk? Sorry, go on.

No, it's good. It's funny. I am Scott Paladin. I am working on a horny werewolf noir podcast called It Takes a Wolf.

Hi, I'm Jack. I was like, oh, right, I'm next. I'm Jack. I'm working on as in west, which is a spin off of Unspeakable Distance.

And I'm not Sam Stark, which is, you know, a regret I wake up with every single day. I'm Interiority, AKA Mike, and I'm working on an audio drama called Sundered.

Excellent. So I forget. I don't remember at all what any of our goals were.

I remember my goal because I didn't hit it, but I did work toward it, which is better than I sometimes do.

I do vaguely remember mine was that I was going to have casting done because that was, like, my big thing. I think I just gotten or was just closing out before we all talked last time. So. Yeah, and the answer is that. Yeah, that's. That's chugging along nicely. Slower than it took than I wanted it to. It took me longer because I had so many applicants, which is good.

We love that.

Yeah, it's good. I have almost got everything done. I have to make one very personally tough decision. Not because it's. Because it could go good either way. Right. But I have to make one little decision before I can send out my offer emails to people. And then I've got to do the soft contract stuff and everything.

Oh, my God.

And ensemble. I've got a lot to do, but I feel good about my progress, is what I'm going to say.

You've done a lot. You have done a lot of casting between last time we spoke and right now, because I think last time we spoke was maybe at the beginning of this month and it is now the end of this month. For the listeners who maybe missed all of that, we were going to all meet up in Colorado and record in person, which did not happen for a variety of reasons, some of which were, like, technical difficulties, like, not having the right equipment. And one of which was that I was not there because I was very ill instead and did not fly to Colorado. So, whoops, we didn't do that. But we.

We never promised it.

We did other stuff besides record a podcast.

I mean, some of us did meet up and hug, so, you know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Some of us missed out on that. Jack.

Yeah. I was hugging you from afar in my heart.

I've confirmed the. The physical presence of many Internet people over that.

Okay. I love that. Yeah, it was. I said this in the server, but it was really weird to see photos of people, full bodies, like, legs included. There were many people's legs I'd never seen before because I've only ever seen y' all from, like, the sternum up, basically. So that was fun.

It is very weird. Yeah, it is very weird to have, like, everybody's heights now. Like, I know the scale of everyone, which, like, I kind of could have guessed. You know? Like, I kind of, like, I'm like, okay. But, like, you know, like, like, okay, I know how. I know how tall Mike is now. You know, like, I know how tall Sam is now. Like, it's very strange.

Mike, are you tall?

I'm not. Scott level, like, you know, like, Scott is exactly as tall as you'd expect him to be, but I'm taller than Sam, and I take that as a win.

Yeah, exactly.

Okay. Nice. Nice.

Yeah, yeah. Mike is average size. That's how I would say Mike is a normal, normal, adult human size. That is the summary.

That's not suspicious in any way at all.

Mike is secretly nine feet tall. Okay, well, when I come see you, Scott, in next. Next year or no, if you come through Christmas time and see me, you will see what size I am, which is a small size.

Yeah, yeah. No small S. I suspect. I was like. I'm like, Jack is a Jack. Gives off small energy.

Ben knew that bitch was small. Okay, well, yeah, we got distracted.

We got updates, though.

We got updates. Yeah, please tell us your updates, Scott.

Yeah, which is that I got. I'm down to just, like, the final casting decision that I have to make before I can send people emails, and then I have to do ensemble and contracts. That's next. But so far, everybody, a clear plan. Yeah, I have a clear plan, and it's really great. I wanted to talk to people sort of before I like, the finalists, as it were, like, the last couple of decisions, and everybody that I talked to is really cool. Everybody's been super nice. It was really. It's Also, that's one of the reasons why this last little decision is hard, is because it's like, I've got to say no to some people now. And that's just. It's like, I could. It would work either way. It's just. Which one do I, like, want to actually, you know, like, I have to make a final decision. I have to collapse the waveform, make it happen. So, yeah, that's where I'm at.

It's hard to make decisions when you've talked to the people and they're all cool and nice because you're like, oh, man, I don't want to tell any of these people no. But also, I have twice as many voices as I need right at this exact moment.

Yeah. Yeah. And, well, like, the. This is also one of those things of, like, I do. The thing that makes it easier is I have another round. Like, I will. There's phase two. These people, like, I. I could easily offer some of these people phase two already, but that I'm not going to do. I'm not going to do anything until that is set to go. Like, I don't. I don't want to jump the bed. Yeah.

So jump the bed. Wait, I've never heard that expression.

Jump the. What was it? Jump the line is a phrase.

Jump the gun. What's that?

Jump the gun. Jump the gun. Jump the gun. And then shit. The bed is the other version.

So.

Jeff, jump the bed.

Perfect. I'm saying that forever. That's so funny. I don't want to jump the gun and shit the bed. Compressed into.

I don't want to jump the bed.

Amazing. Yeah. You're gonna have another round of auditions later on if this first two episodes do well. Right. Like, if these. Because these are getting made for sure. Yeah. These are good episodes.

And frankly, like, I'm gonna do crowdsource crowdfunding in the first part of next year. If that doesn't happen, the rest of the season will get made eventually, somehow, I will figure it out. I am confident that, like, even if. Even if I can't get people to pay for it or only pay for some of it, I will figure a way to make the rest of it happen. It'll just take longer and be more of a slog, but. So it'll get done, but it's just a boundary of when and how.

Yeah.

All right. Jack, I believe you did work on your homework.

I did actually work on my homework. I did not finish well. I set myself a goal that I suspected was a bit ambitious. Last time, which was write the entire next episode did not complete that. But I did get, I want to say, like maybe halfway through drafting that next episode. So I'm not unpleased with my progress, especially considering I was ill for a week in there.

Yes.

So, yeah, not. Not too bad. I do need to, I think, talk to Sam again about some like, narrative stuff that we want to. We know we want to weave in, but like it needs to get kind of. There's like a sort of a subplot that we need to sprinkle in before it becomes relevant later in the season. And so we need to sit down and talk about that briefly. But yeah, homework for this time? I did some of it.

Yeah.

That's great.

That's great. Mike, how about you?

Well, I think my homework was like, do any work on the thing actually whatsoever, which hasn't been the case for a while. So, yeah, I actually did do that, despite the fact that I did spend quite a large amount of this this month, either kind of in transit or thousands of miles away or like, you know, locked in a deeply intimate embrace with Scott.

Yeah, that was only 15 hours. You had to time for other stuff.

A 15 hour intimate embrace. Yes.

Well, I mean, you know, it's only appropriate when you're around Scopolitan, I can tell you that. Yeah, No, I mean, yeah, I did travel like from my home in the UK all the way to Colorado. Like that was not insignificant. It did take a bit out of me. Yet I'd still found some time to do stuff, mainly because Colorado is also where my producer lives and he kind of like basically locked me away for a day and we worked on the thing. So, you know, like the proximity could have worked. Not really in my favor, but, you know, in the favor of the project. Anyway, there is an interesting development, which I'm not. I should probably be a bit more circumspect about talking about it, but to be honest, we're amongst friends. It'll be fine. I'm not going to kind of like give anything.

I'm going to bleep all of this if you decide later that you don't want it on air.

Yeah, like, you know, I'm not going to give any specific specifics, but basically what came out of it is that I've been doing a lot of work on paid stuff this year. Like I've been. I've been doing a lot of writing for other people on their projects and getting paid for it, and that's kind of taken priority. And this Kind of taking some of the impetus and energy away from me doing my thing. My producer, who is also the reason why I'm doing a lot of this paid work, is getting impatient. My producer wants something to go on the awards circuit for next year, especially because apparently Tribeca is opening up their film festival to, like, podcast stuff.

Oh, cool.

At the start of next year. And, yeah, my producer is hungry for an award and reckons my show might be a way of doing that, so.

Yo.

Cool. They have proposed dropping a not insignificant amount of money to produce my first double episode as a pilot in the next two months, which is an interesting proposition. Not quite what I expected, because I thought I would go through a whole long casting process and write all the scripts of the season and do it that way. And they were like, if we don't light a fire under it, there's always the risk that this is just gonna fizzle out. So, yeah, I'm kind of currently, at the moment just discussing as to whether I do that or not, whether I'm comfortable essentially having, like, a, you know, my first pilot cast for me. I mean, it doesn't mean that we can't go back and redo it at some point, but, like, for this opportunity, they're basically saying, you know, I've got a lot of people on my roster, a lot of people who, you know, names would actually gonna give us a bit of recognition if they're in there. Yeah, we could probably get them to be involved. Should we just do it? So, yeah. So I'm. I'm kind of. I'm kind of coming to terms with that at the moment, so.

Excellent.

So, yeah, so we'll see. We'll see. It's very tight turnaround. They're confident they can do it. Me, I'm like. I'm used to a production time of a year between kind of actually writing a thing and getting it out there with breathing space and stuff like that.

Yeah.

Yeah. So, like, turning something around in less than three months is kind of a bit of a scary prospect.

Yeah.

But you have, in fact, at least drafted that first episode already, correct?

Yeah. And I'm in a pretty good position, like, where I feel with it, like, people like it. I probably still want to get someone to tear it apart and just, like, tighten it up a bit. I think there's things I could still do to improve it, but, like, if it was to be recorded as is, I would be unhappy.

Right.

I think it's a nice representation of what the rest of the show is. Cool. So, yeah. So in that sense, the script is in a good place. It's just.

Yeah.

Everything else.

Yeah, yeah.

But yeah, all the other production pipelines.

Yeah, yeah. Well, we've got an editor lined up. We potentially got a composer, and not just any composer, someone who was nominated for a Webby Award for composing last year.

Cool.

Yeah. And, yeah, and like, you know, we reckon we can kind of get a full cast set up fairly easily.

Amazing.

That's really cool. Well, and I know it's, I know it's scary, but like, when other people get involved, stuff can move a lot quicker.

Stuff starts happening. Yeah.

Because you've, you multiply the number of, of human hours that are available for something. So if, you know, if, if your producer says that they're confident this can work, then you know, take, you know that, take that piece of advice where, for what it's worth, you know, and like, you know, know that, that, you know.

Yeah. Because I mean, they've got more experience than me, so.

Yeah.

Yeah. I think they're probably better, in a better position to kind of understand kind of what's possible within the time period. I'm like six months, eight months at minimum. You know, and they're like, yeah, we can do this in two. Yeah.

Just that knowledge of what is possible is huge. Yeah. Knowing that this is how quickly we can turn something around, this is how long that kind of stuff takes is. Yeah, that's hugely valuable advice. Even on top of like the how to do it. But just knowing that what it can, what can be done or can't be done, because the number of people who get screwed up by not knowing what can't be done. Very large.

Yes. My God, Exponentially larger than the amount of podcasts that actually get made.

Yeah, yeah, sure. The number of people and the fact that you've got what you plan to produce, you've got basically written, not finished. But like written is a huge leg up. That is the, that particular part. Yeah, that particular thing of like the writing of the work is one of those, like, that's where the biggest kind of screw ups often happen in projects.

Oh my God.

At least looking from the outside in, that's where like the biggest variable is, is in the actual creation of the story. Especially if there's only like one or two people working on it. If you've got a big, if you're a family guy or whatever, you've got a team of 30 writers, like, you'll get something out, you know, but like the number of Kickstarter projects I've Seen where they're like, oh, yeah, we have an idea for a thing. Yeah, yeah, please give us thousands of dollars to make it. And. But they haven't got the thing written and they don't see you like, no, you. You don't. Yeah. Like, the idea is worthless. You have to write at least a.

Chunk of it first a little bit.

Because, like, that can fall apart. Like a project can completely fall apart in the writing. And if you've. But if you've already got what you want to make. Yeah, if you've already got what you want to make kind of ready to go, then I think that's the point at which the shape of it exists already. You know how many characters you're going to have, you know what the length is, you know, all the ads. So I feel like you're on surer footing than you might feel like. Yeah. Is what I was trying to say.

I'm a nervous person just by kind of disposition and like, being kind of like, you know, like, told that we, We. We're doing this in quite a truncated time period. Yeah, yeah.

That's like a stressful thing to hear from someone that you really respect and like, you know that they're very, like, competent and understand the timeline and stuff. And them being like, hey, we can absolutely do this in two months. And then you're sitting there like, damn, I guess we probably can do this in two months. And I didn't think about that as a possibility. And that's kind of crazy.

Yeah. Especially when the fix. Fixing you have a manic glare and kind of like laughing at a. In a slightly disturbing way.

Yeah.

And then declaring that this, this is. This is our chance. To Lauren Shippen and Gabrielle Ab. I'm like, I'm not. I'm not sure I'm on board, you know, so.

Yeah.

Cool.

Yeah.

So I can go.

Okay, so that's updates pretty well covered. I didn't bring a topic today, like, so if.

Sorry.

Yes.

Yeah, go ahead, John.

Oh, no, no, please go ahead, Mike.

Well, I was going to kind of like, just briefly ask kind of like specifically how did the process of doing callbacks go for you? Like, you know, like, obviously it's probably an amount you feel comfortable talking about, but that's not something I've ever actually been involved in and I was just really interested to kind of know how that went.

Yeah, I feel like they're all done at this point. What remains is not. So there's no. I don't feel weird about talking about it. It's basically Finished. For this particular instance, what I mostly wanted to do was just what I keep calling a vibe check. Right? Where it's like, I need to make sure that you are a nice person who I can get along with and a certain amount of it. Can I get you on the phone? Is it okay? Is it, like, easy to, like, get a hold of you? Are you somebody who's still involved? Are you. Do you respond to emails, things like that? So, like I said, everybody I worked with or I talked to was super nice. I already. I talked to several people I knew. Of course, there I was like, oh, yeah, Such and such so and so person put in. I know they're good. I'm just going to, like, put them on the list and we'll talk for a minute. Those were useful because it helped me get back into the producer mode of like, I'm going to talk to strangers now. How do I build a rapport? How do I structure these little things? The big thing that I decided to forego was I didn't do any. I decided before I started the callbacks that I wasn't going to have anybody do any line readings or anything like that. We weren't going to try to actually have them perform again. I was basing my. My decisions off of their submissions already. I wasn't going to call them back in and see, like, hey, can you. Can you do this? Because I knew if I wanted that I needed to have at least one more person on the call.

Yes.

Because I wanted somebody. I'd have to have somebody that. From the play off of while I listened, I feel like we.

You did, like, consider that at some point, briefly.

That was a thought I really had. And if I was prepared to want to do that, even while I was going through the audition process, everybody who I talked to or everybody who got to the point where I had enough auditions, in this particular case, that everybody who got to the finalist stage, I'm like, you'll do it. This is going to work.

You're gonna be fine.

Yeah, this is gonna work. It's not a can you do it? It's, can I work with you? Was the question I needed to answer. So in that particular instance, I felt comfortable saying, I don't need to hear you do more line reads. And that meant that they could be shorter. It meant that I didn't have to bring a second person on the call to do line reads against stuff like that. So it was just easier to do it without having to try to grab somebody and feel like, hey, can you can you read the other side of a scene and all that? So, yeah, so everybody was really nice. It was basically just a, here's who I am. I want to know who you are. Let's have a conversation about the thing. I gave them a rundown of the practical sides of the project. I talked to some people about some spoilery stuff about the characters themselves, mostly to gauge reactions on that one. Because if I say. I mean, I think. I think the. Yeah, the audience should. Who's listening to this podcast should know about the changeling, but, like, not everybody who did the. The casting call for the pillar would know about that character.

Yeah, I think everybody who listens to this has been exposed to, like, every spoiler there is, basically.

Yeah, exactly. So, like, I'm not.

But.

But I wanted to make sure that that was something when. When I tell somebody that part of it, hey, by the way, you're going to turn out to be a narrator as well. You've got a second side to you. You're going to have to work with another actor and have somebody go. If somebody had said, oh, no. Well, that's so weird. Yeah, yeah, like, then I would have been like, okay, well, you're not a good fit. Luckily, everybody I talked to on that one was like, oh, my God, that sounds amazing. I want to do that.

Sick as hell.

Yeah, that's. That's. That rips. So that. That's the kind of reactions I was looking for was people who were like, okay, this sounds cool. This. I'm excited about it. Obviously, that's not a guarantee that they're going to be cool all the way through the whole project, of course, but because, you know, if people are on their best behavior for what appears to be a job interview, that's one thing. But everybody I talked to had a. Had a nice, natural rapport. Several of us went a little bit long because they mentioned a thing, and I'm like, oh, wait, you play TRTPGs. What's the weirdest game you've ever played? And the guy's like, let me show you this giant list of RPGs that I have, and let me tell you some awesome little things like that where you're like, okay, and. Or like, let's talk about horror movies or something like that. Like, everybody had a. It was. It was basically just like a meet and greet conversation to make sure they're. They're fun. So that's how it went. It only took about maybe 30 minutes a person, unless we ran a little bit long, a little bit less for some of them, it was. Yeah, I found it hugely valuable, mostly because it makes me feel really confident about the people that I want to pick.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's good. The way that we handled it previously on Breathing Space was pretty much we just decided and then sent them an email. And that bit us in the ass a couple of times with people who within five minutes of getting on a phone call, I was like, oh, you're kind of a dick. Okay, I'm not naming you yet.

I still continue to be involved, so testing it to your patience, nothing else.

I mean, yeah, we also had the issue where people would audition for a part and then, like, never respond to, like, messages from production team and like, you know, miss recording times and stuff like that. Not a lot of that didn't happen a lot, but it did happen occasionally.

But yeah, like literally just a gate check of can I get you on the phone Easily how quickly? Like, I sent these out as emails and I used an app called Calendly for the actual scheduling, which I would actually recommend for this kind of thing. I'm not sure if it's as good for, like, we have five people and we need them all to meet at the same time. I haven't ever used it for that. The only thing I've ever used it for is here's my calendar. Put yourself on my calendar. And for that it works brilliantly. It integrates with Google and everything. So you can just be like, here, here's a link. Make an appointment for me. And then I just get a notification that that person has happened or that this is when it's going to happen. And that works for that particular purpose. Calendly works great. So I would highly recommend it. But yeah, like this gate check of are you a fun per. Like, you know, a job interview, basically, but not like, none of that crap.

Do I want to work with you?

None of that crap of, like, what's your greatest weakness? Or anything like that. That's, you know, stuff that, like, people are. Because, like, that's just inviting them to lie to you. I did the question, I did ask that. I got really good responses for that. I tried to ask not everybody, but several people was of the projects you've worked on, which one's your favorite? Or.

Oh, that's a really good question.

Do it even, you know, like, weren't even special to you. Several people were like, well, I can't talk about my favorite because it's. I'm under NDA, blah, blah, blah. But the way. But the way people respond to those kinds of questions was great because some people immediately turn negative and are like, well, I can tell you about the ones I didn't like. But it was. That's. Again, that would have been run differently if I was expecting like, line reads and stuff and have doing sides and stuff. But for that part of it, it was. It was great. It went. It was very lovely. My social anxiety didn't get the better of me, so, like, it was really easy to just talk to people and everything. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it went great. And like I said, everybody was cool. So although it was very helpful in making sure that everybody. It didn't make my decisions easier because I now have the problem of everybody's cool and I don't want to say no to anyone.

Yeah.

But at least it meant that, you know, I'm not scrambling trying to find, you know, oh, my God, the person I expected to have this work is just unavailable or whatever. So.

Yeah, that's really interesting because that is because you did that in a way that I don't think I've heard people do before.

Oh, okay.

Like, yeah, like, all the other callbacks I've kind of. I've heard people have been involved in have always been like, much more formalized and much more kind of like you would get kind of like, perhaps kind of like in a. In an actual kind of professional.

Yeah.

Probably on screen acting capacity.

Oh, yeah.

There would be a panel of people.

Oh, yeah.

You know, that sort of thing. So it's a very. The dynamic is very, very different.

Yeah, it is. And part of that may just be that it's just like behind the lock or not behind the library of curse knowledge is just me, basically. I mean, y' all are members as well, but like, I, you know, I'm the one who runs it. And Freddie takes a wolf. Like, you know that. That's it. Like, it's just me. So I don't have to. If I like somebody, I don't have to pass them by a panel. I don't have to get. Nobody else has to sign off. Which is where some of that, like, more formality comes from. Is if you have a lot of hands in the pot, that's one formality. And like. Like setting up formulas and all or setting up rules is one of the ways that you make sure that everybody, all the stakeholders are satisfied, to use a project manager term.

And so you're the whole library.

Yeah, but I'm the only stakeholder. So. Yeah, you know, fuck those other guys. Okay. I have to. I'M gonna. I have to take this sweater off. It's too hot in here. One sec.

Please hold. Listeners.

Patreon content.

Oh, yeah, I stepped away. Even y' all don't even. Y' all haven't having done giving me enough value for the. For the. For the stripping.

Yeah. In case anyone is like, damn, I really missed the content. We did too. He did it off camera. It was like just a rustle off to the side.

Sweater being thrown across the room. Yeah, yeah, The.

The joke.

Well, sorry, I guess I said it as a joke in the beginning, but I'm in a. I'm on a closet today on, like, most literally.

Closet.

Yeah, I'm like, literally closed off in here because I have bought some new gear for recording. It takes a wolf and I wanted to test it out. And behind the locked doors is my beta testing facility. This is where, you know, sometimes I've recorded from cars. It's just to see what we can do.

True. Or outside or on your deck or whatever I love. So, listeners, you can't see this with your eyeballs, but I am seeing with my eyeballs that the screen with Scott on it is like a blurry field where Scott's head is the only thing in focus. Like, when you turn your head a little bit, sometimes your ear appears out of the mist or like the edge of your jaw, but, like, there's just a void behind you.

It's just that, like, privacy filter or whatever. Here, I can. You can see my. My clean. I was gonna say my dirty underwear, but that's actually clean stuff back there. Let me see if I turn this off.

If it's hanging up. I would hope it was clean.

Yeah, I don't. Oh, it's great.

Closet reveal. Hold on, everyone.

Oh, oh. While recording, visual effects can't be changed. Thanks. Okay.

No closet reveal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna. I'm gonna have all of my shirts censored, I'm afraid. Okay.

Anyway, what were you saying before you took your sweater off?

No, I said everything I kind of wanted to say about the callbacks and stuff. Yeah. So that was. It went really well. I have one final decision to make, which I'm being vague about for deliberate reasons while on the call, because again, that's stuff that could. By the time this goes out, I will have made this decision, but I don't want anybody to the off chance for somebody to hear something. And also, this is one of the places where I do feel. Just everything I said before, I feel comfortable about. But talking about people, people's auditions and casting call stuff is one of those scenarios where you can start to hurt people's feelings.

Yeah.

Even just like, the thing I always worry about is somebody hearing something and hearing me be glowing about someone else and then being like, well, they didn't. He didn't say that about me. You know, like, even by, like, being positive just by saying too much, sometimes you can, like, yeah, you know, you can set people off a little bit. But. Yeah. So I've got one final decision, which is really just which of, of two different really good scenarios do I want to pick? And, like, they both are good, so there's not a reason to pick one or the other. So it's excruciating to be like. And I like both. All the people in both.

Can I just double cast both of these parts maybe?

I don't know what they'll. Yeah, well, and the thing is, I know if I was. I'm stopping myself from trying to cast ahead because if I could cast ahead and say, I know what I want to do for phase two, I would just say, okay, well, then I'll pick so and so for phase one and then put this other person in this other role for which they will be amazing. I can already tell they'll be perfect for this other role in phase two. But I don't, I'm, I, I, I'm really hesitant to do that because of. I feel. It feels unfair. Kind of like, I don't know. Something about it just. It rubs me the wrong way in terms of, like, making sure that people have the opportunity because, like, there are people I already eliminated from this cat who never made it that far who would also be good for that role in phase two. They should be considered, you know, like, I don't, I don't know. But again, it's not like, this is a, um, this is my project, so maybe I should be allowed to do kind of whatever I want. I don't know. Maybe I'm being too hard on myself in terms of, like, this needs to be fair. But, like, I do try to.

I think there's no reason not to keep notes about people. You did callbacks for this round?

Yeah.

Who you were like, okay, I know they'd be good for this other role. I'm going to keep that name in mind. And then if I see that audition come through the next time, I'll be excited to see it, you know, and.

You'Re reminding me that one of the things I need to do before I send out the big rejection emails, because Just by the name of the rejection email? Well, no, it's. I'm literally looking. It's literally. It's like it's going to be 90 plus emails to send out. Yeah, I'm sorry, we can't do anything. Probably just a lot of auditions. But when I do that, I need to have a way for them to sign up for alerts. Because if I was another actor and say, hey, there's a phase two coming out at some point, I want you to apply to it. Would you like to be notified? I'm the kind of person who would sign up for that. And because I know I am that kind of person, I think that other people might want it as well, which means I have another thing I have to do now. Or I have to get that set up so that I can acquire emails and not just, like, have them email me or, like. Yeah, I have to figure something out. Um, okay.

Yeah, that's a good idea. Like, sign me up for updates.

I actually want. I want to do our. Our goals real quick because. Oh, yeah, yeah. And, yeah, so let's do that. Because I want to. I have. I want to talk to you guys about the situation. Off mic, as it were.

Okay. Okay, perfect. So go ahead and do goals.

So my goal is it's two weeks from now. I will have sent all of the acceptance emails to people that we're doing. I will have started on ensemble stuff if not finished it because that shouldn't take too long.

I hope that shouldn't be as.

Yeah, that's not as grueling. And I should have contract stuff done because those need to go out, like, before. They probably need to be sent before this that we record again so that I can get recordings done in November, edit in December, and then have, like, Kickstarter ready to go early next year. Yeah. God, we don't have much time left. It's almost November.

The year's, like, over, y'. All.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Okay. Okay. So that's my goal. I've got tons of stuff to do.

Yeah, you're gonna be busy, but that's okay. My goals are to draft the back half of episode. Oh, my God. What the fuck? Number three, I guess. I think three. And have a brief meeting with Sam about this, like, narrative B plot that I have questions about. Mike.

Yeah, I'm in two weeks time. I should have the list through of the recommended actors for the pilot. So I'll have to review their reels and their stuff and make some decisions. Find someone to give me some really harsh edits on this first episode and hopefully start doing some revisions on it and start having conversations or at least drawing up a list of inspirations for my composer in terms of the music that we're going to be doing. Cool.

This is so exciting. I'm so excited.

Things moving?

Yeah, yeah, it's happening.

Great.

Then we will catch you all and the audience in two weeks.

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