Doldroms, and hedgehogs, and dogs with opinions.

I've not spoken to another human being all day, so that's great. But I have spoken to a hedgehog in my back garden, so it's kind of the same thing.

Well, I would have started feeding them. I would. I would have. If I was in the uk, I would have have foxes and hedgehogs and all kinds of things in my backyard all the time, because I would just feed everything. Cat food.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, like. I don't know, like cat food. Rookie mistake, Sam. You've got to commit to the actual hedgehog food, which I did buy a bag of this week.

Oh, my God.

Wait, there's specific hedgehog.

There's specific hedgehogs.

Because you can have hedgehog. You can have hedgehogs as pets. I really hope we're recording this.

Yeah, yeah, I've been recording. We haven't synced yet.

We're in. We're so in. Should we sync clap, though?

Yeah, yeah.

Yes, please. Sync Clap in 3, 2, 1. Close enough. Excellent. All right, I'll do an intro. Here we go.

Please.

Welcome to behind the Locked Doors. This is a podcast within a podcast within a hangout with your friends to try and get motivated to get stuff done. My name is Sam Stark. I am doing literally everything in the entire world except the thing I'm supposed to be doing, which is a spin off of Unspeakable Distance, called as an. There you go. Take it away.

Yeah, you've been doing just everything on the Earth, full stop. So, yeah, literally everything. Hi, I'm Jack. I'm also working on Azan west, which is a spinoff of Unspeakable Distance.

And hi, I'm Mike, AKA Interrogity, and I am the star of Azen west, the spin off Untangible Distance.

You are.

You totally are.

My character is the defining aspect of the entire thing and the main motivation that we're putting it together.

He says that like he's joking, but it's actually true.

It's actually true.

Patiently wa for my line so I can deliver a bravuro performance. But, you know, such is the life of an actor.

Truthfully. Truthfully, though, like, to be completely honest, the first time that Simmons will show up in the show, you actually get to write your own thing because it's like. It's like another unspeakable distance, like, message type.

Oh, nice. Okay. Oh, yeah, I think you mentioned that.

Really?

Yeah. So really, you could write your lens. Whatever.

Yeah. Here's the thing. We go about writing these episodes, and every time there's Simmons content. We leave it blank because we're like, we're not gonna do it. Like, Mike is the only one capable

of putting this in, especially since it's all, like, most like. Actually, yeah. All of the Simmons stuff that happens in, like, the first half is going to be messages from him. So I do not want to. I don't want to mess with that.

I ain't touching all that. I'm not doing it. There's no way I am as funny as you.

I'm just grateful for the opportunity to hurt myself and record it again, as I have done previously with Unspeakable Distance.

So. Yeah, I mean, why else do we make podcasts? I mean, come on.

Oh, exactly.

Yeah.

It's just an excuse to just, you know, act things out upon one's own body.

Yeah.

You know, I know you've done that for certain, Sam, and I didn't mean to.

I absolutely did not mean to. But, yeah, that. Definitely done that. Do we. Do we have a, like, a topic that we're talking about today, or are we just hanging out and talking about stuff?

I think the topic we need to talk about is, like, how rubbish Scott Paladin is just generally

recording today.

The fact that we're recording right now is, I think, the last two episodes that we've recorded and this two episodes over the space of what, maybe two months, a month and a half?

Yeah, something like that.

So two episodes recording in that space of time. Scott has not edited either of those yet.

At the time Nevermind released them, he told us we have to clown on him for that because.

Yes.

Yeah. It's just to be fair to everyone, to the listeners, Scott has been moving, so he's had a legitimate excuse for being.

Scott's had a lot to deal with. Yeah, yeah.

But also, we're clowning on him because we are recording new content. Never mind the fact that the last two times we've recorded, nobody has heard that stuff. Yep. Get it together, Scott.

It really shows just how much that we love and adore Scott, though, that we can sit here and clown on him as we record for everybody to listen to.

Yes, yes, very much so. Although I'm clowning on him because I live many thousands of miles away and I know he can't get me.

Yeah, he can't get you. You're safe from him.

Yeah.

So, yes. But, yeah, I'm inviting future topics, though.

I don't even know.

I mean, you know, there's a few things. I mean, like, it depends how serious we want to be. I Mean, we can do our own Scott Paladin impressions if we want. We can do like a round of them and just kind of see where we are. I do like, genuinely want to talk a little bit about like, where I'm at creatively and like, what I'm doing.

Totally.

But you know, we can save that until we have like, you know, daddy in the call.

Oh, I hated that.

Yeah, I immediately regretted it at the moment I said it.

But it's gonna stay in there.

You were like, I'm gonna do a joke and then you say it and you go, ah, I should have done that.

As he was saying it as the words were coming like past.

The taste in the mouth was just bad mouth feeling.

I would not mind at all talking about where we are, what we're doing, how we're feel. I have so many things to say. Cause I'm doing so many things.

Yeah, you are. And yeah, you deserve to be able to talk about them, Sam.

But I don't have to go first check in.

Well, I was gonna say, like, if you feel like it. Yeah, I mean, like, you'd be a good person to go first. But if you want, one of us can go. It's up to you.

We can just do like first, we can do just check ins, like regular check ins. And then we can move on to like, whoa, it's me. I do too many things and I'm stupid for saying that. Yeah. So me. Okay, so azzanwest. There's two parts to this. So the first part is I had like a. I don't know what the word is, but I had like a bit of inspiration or like some motivation a couple like maybe a month and a half ago. It's been a while. So I did a bunch of writing and I wrote a bunch of like snippets like that have no actual structured place within the narrative. But I had little fun bits of dialogue and like narration and a whole, A whole bunch. It's like probably 7,000 words of just like vomit just like all over the pages. Yeah. And it felt really good and it made me really happy and about like, you know, where the show was going to go, what we were going to say, blah, blah, blah. And I've. I worked on a whole bunch of stuff with Shiloh because I mean, I have, I have children, so I was like, I could probably write some realistic dialogue, blah, blah, blah, if I really thought about it. So whole bunch of words, they don't have a place. But even if I don't use it, it's Such good. Like, it made me feel happy about the project and it, like, got me to. Yeah, it got me to a place where I was like, okay, I have a good chunk of stuff like that I can put in my bag and set it on the shelf and I won't lose it, if that makes any sense. Yeah, yeah. So I can go back and be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is what I was gonna do because it's all actually written down in a document somewhere. And then I. And then this is the second part. I put it up on the shelf because I was an idiot and I booked so many narrations in a short amount of time that the side note, if you are a professional narrator and you do it all the time and you completely book yourself, like, solid for a couple months, that's great. Yay for getting work. But then if randomly HarperCollins calls you and is like, hey, somebody wants you to narrate their book. And it's like the dream book that you've always wanted to do, and it's fucking HarperCollins, just cold calls you. You don't have any room to do that. So you either have to be like, hey, 45 authors that I promised you I would have your narrations done by this time. You gotta move all of those or you just gotta. You just gotta not sleep for a couple weeks and do all of it

anyway, so me and Mike are nodding sympathetically.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Damn, that sucks.

Yeah.

So yay for having work and yay for having, like, you know, success in the career that I have always wanted. But at the same time, I have not had a day off in such a long time. And there was also con. In the middle of that. I had to go and be the track lead for the audio track for NorWestCon here in Washington. So I am slightly crazy because I'm just really, really tired. I forgot to eat yesterday, so just

fully the whole entire day.

Yeah, that's. That's kind of where I am. So I'm really, really happy that I did the thing with Azan west and then put it on the shelf. So it's like I still have positive feelings when it comes to Azzen west, and I don't want to just throw it in the garbage because I kind of, like, planned for I. It aside for a while. And so I'm in. I'm in the thick of it and I am still in the middle of a bunch of narrations. I just finished the HarperCollins one and now I'm doing. I'm doing another monster fucker one but

rolling his eyes like it's such a hard.

If they had a plot, they would be really fun. But yeah. So in regards to Azin west, everything is actually going pretty well, but I am not working on it right now intentionally because your plate is mega full.

Understandable. Okay, great. Great update, Sam. Mike, do you want to go or do you want me to go?

It makes sense probably for you to go because you're more as in west orientated. So.

Okay, sure. Yeah, yeah. I got the series bible updated with the stuff that I have access to. So like everything that's not the west episode, like unspeakable distance episode transcripts, I have put the information into one single document. So we have like lists of locations that they've been to and things that how like technology words that we've used and like characters names and kind of like baseline who it is in the plot, like type stuff.

That's so nice.

Yeah.

Which is I think going to be really helpful for us going forward as we're all always like trying to reference back to stuff that happened in unspeakable distance and going, oh shit, I don't remember what episode that was from or where to find it or whatever. What did we call this last time? I don't know. So it'll be nice to have that all in one place. Yeah, that's where I'm at with Azen west was like getting all of that updated and into one document.

That's. Oh, that's so freaking awesome because like all the stuff that I wrote, there's so many little brackets.

I need to go find this thing called.

Exactly.

Yeah. Awesome.

Yay.

Thank you.

Yay.

Amazing. Okay, Mike.

All right, well, I have done nothing on AZM West. I mean, I'm sorry. Like, I just got the ball.

Damn it.

You know, I don't even have an excuse. I've been doing fuck all. I've just been. I've been sitting a lot. I've been sitting.

Trying to keep yourself alive, which is such an important.

There has been. Yeah, like, yeah, I might get into more of that later. But yeah, there has been things like, you know, not dying.

Is not dying high on the list of priorities.

Yeah, yeah. And like just, you know, just general life disruption and upheaval and being in a pretty different place than where I was, like the start this year. So yeah, it's been interesting.

Mike's wild ride that I. No doubt. I'm sure you want to get off at this point.

Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, like I'VE done the duration now. Like, I feel like I've gone around enough times that I know it well, enough that it doesn't hold any appeal for me anymore. Like, yeah, I want to try something else now.

That's quite enough of that one. Enough with the loop de loops, please.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, like, the project which I talk about most on this podcast, which is Sundard, which is a sci fi audio drama that I've been writing for a while that, you know, as I've mentioned, has stalled, and I've kind of just really lost enthusiasm for doing much with it at the moment, just because there isn't really a way out to do any of the stuff I want with it, like, for the foreseeable future. Like, I don't have an option to produce a pilot like I was hoping to. Just recently, Tribeca announced their audio drama selections and nominations for their festival kind of coming up. And that was something I was kind of aiming to kind of get stuff for. So that's just kind of. It's a little bit of a reminder of. Oh, you know, missed opportunity.

Oh, yeah.

And things. You know, it's. You know, like, it's. It's a good project. I want to still do it. Like, I've still got it in mind to. To complete it, but it is. It's far too ambitious for just me to be able to produce on my own.

And it's gonna be on probably, like, a longer timeline at this point.

It is, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, you know, like, it's gonna need crowdfunding or, like, some. Some backing even to, like, to get a proof of concept in place, like Scott has. I will need to either have, like, you know, like, a reserve of personal money to spend on it, or, like, you know, I'm going to have to go out there without much of a track record to speak of and ask people to back me, which is going to be a difficult proposition. So what. What I'm trying to do, and I think I've mentioned this before, is that the only thing I've really wanted to do because I've been sad and ill and confined to the sofa a few times and watching various costume dramas on the BBC, sometimes because I want to, sometimes because I just want to piss some off because I can watch them and some can't.

Right.

Which has happened rubbing it in Sam's face. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I mean, like, what's the point in doing anything if you can't make Sam annoyed about it as well? So. So that's been the Primary motivation for it. But yeah, I've been writing a Regency kind of like semi comedy, semi sort of like, you know, action romance sort of thing.

Oh, my God.

Very kind of like low stakes. It's based on kind of like a LARP character that I played with my friend Dr. Lou Sutcliffe, who's fairly prominent in the audio drama community, co creator of Hila's Choice and other things.

I didn't know you did lar, Mike. You're the coolest guy on the earth.

I did LARP a little bit and failed at it mainly. Although I do have a, like an early 19th century British military uniform that I wear that's so rad. So, you know, there is. That has got me at least one. One romantic interaction before, but. But yeah, good for you. It's a character I really enjoyed and I really enjoyed the interactions I had with Lou and like, the world we kind of like, created. I've been playing around with it in my head, like, just as a little mini project for a while. And during all the commotion, I took the step of going to the LARP creators and saying, hey, would you mind if I made a drama out of this? Like, I'll file the serial numbers off. I won't include anyone who doesn't want to be included. Like, their stories, their names and stuff that'll be changed. But like the central story between mine and Lou's characters, the things we did, the backstories we came up with, I'd like to turn that into an actual story. So, yeah, so, yeah, I got the. I got more than the permission. Like, they seemed very enthusiastic about it.

Oh, that's awesome.

I've got two episodes in the can already written. I'm aiming for about an 8 to 10 episode series. It's gonna be very, you know, purposefully, a very kind of like, limited sort of project. So, like, not a huge amount of sound design and stuff required. Not a huge cast. There's gonna be a lot of elements of it which are gonna be monologue. So, you know, just to kind of like cut down on kind of like dialogue editing stuff.

That is so smart. You are so smart to think, well,

it's all the sort of stuff that I probably should have done when I was approaching Sunders, but instead I got caught up in the idea, got excited about the possibility of it, and extended it outwards with this. It's very much kind of like this is baby's first project, so I need

to be realistic and you're like, working within the limitations that you know you are working within.

Exactly. So, you know, like, ideally I'm not going to even be casting. Like, I have people in mind for just about every role I've got already, and that's so nice. And people to fill stuff that could come up as well in the future. So, like, even though I don't know precisely what character they're gonna play, I know that they would be good for it. They're all people kind of like I know or know of within the community. Lou's already on board, so I can use them because Lou knows. Lou knows literally everybody in audio drama, regardless of everybody, regardless of their nationality. Like, if someone is making audio drama in Turkey, Lud not only knows them, close personal friend of them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so, like, Lou is the best person to know around because, you know, by extension you'll be able to kind of contact everyone. And everyone I've talked to so far is very enthusiastic about doing it, at least partly because the, the involvement and the commitment is going to be fairly low. Like, you know, I'm not asking anyone to do huge amounts of stuff. And if, if it's something that's going to be fun and kind of like light hearted and we can just kind of like roll through it, I think that's going to benefit both the production and the end product as well, so.

And probably you as well, feeling like, wow, I completed something and I created it and I got those people together and it wasn't like this giant, like, burdensome thing that took over my life.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, like, you know, yeah. If anything, I could do with less stress in my life at the moment.

Yeah.

Actively trying to plan for that would be good. But yeah, like, I needed something to make me enthusiastic about creating again, especially in a year that's been quite dark for me. So having something which is just joyful. Yeah. And like, it's good. It's not gonna be something I'm expecting is gonna set the world alight. I mean, I doubt anyone's even gonna want to listen to it particularly, but, you know, Regency romances aren't the least popular thing in the world and.

Yeah, I'm gonna stop you right there. Actually, I think a lot of people love a Regency romance and will appreciate the, like, heart and humor that you bring to all of the projects that I've done, seen you do. And the fact that, like, it's a story, that it's already a story that's close to you because you were there at the inception of it and, like, created it with A friend in the beginning. And I think that always shines through in these types of projects. So that's.

That's what I'm hoping.

Yeah. Shut the fuck your mouth is basically.

Yeah.

Well, Jack, Jack, I'm going to tell you a little secret. It's going to be gay as fuck.

Yay. Applause. Applause for the gay as fuck Regency comedy romance.

All the people that watch Bridgerton and are just extremely queer baited every single day that they watch that fucking show will be like, yes, Finally I got

through one season of Bridgerton and I wanted to rip my fucking hair out.

Oh, it's.

Cause the first season's really bad. The only season that's good. The only season that's good is the second one and the Charlotte spinoff. The Queen Charlotte spinoff's really good. And actually I'm gonna maybe be weird for a second, but the Benedict let's. Was okay. I was won over. But three is terrible and one is terrible. So it sucks that the first one is bad.

Sam, I'm with you through all of that. I agree totally, 100%.

Season two was okay. Well, because I remember watching the first couple episodes of season one and being hooked. I was like, oh, this is fun. There's like fun setups for character stuff that they're gonna deliver on in the second half of the season.

Right.

Padme Meme. Right, Anakin. Right. They didn't.

No.

All of the stuff I was interested in was not the stuff that they were actually planning on doing.

Yeah.

Rip.

I. I was tempted. Now we're gonna go on a Bridgerton tandem.

That's.

Okay.

Tangent. I was tempted to read. I was tempted to read the books because I wanted to see how much was like actual content from the books and what was like, made up adaptation.

Yeah.

And I just couldn't do it. Like, I started reading it and I just wasn't. I was like the. And I tried reading like several chapters from all the books, and every single male character is insufferable in the books. They are absolutely terrible. And that's actually one of the reasons I think that the second season is the best, is they made the eldest brother Anthony, like an actual character that I could root for, even though he was very serious. And like, you know, we have to be traditional and you have to get married, blah, blah, blah in the first season. But like, he's. All of them, except for fucking Colin are totally palatable in the show. So, yeah, can't read the books. Can't do it. Can't be bothered.

But also I would like to say that I do reserve the right to pivot, like, do a hard pivot into just writing monster fucker literature. Given you don't need to be any good and you don't even need to edit.

You don't have to be good at it.

Yeah. Like, you know, maybe the easy money is there. Maybe that's what I should be doing.

If there's even one trick, shred one scrap of plot, it sounds like you will be, like, miles above many of the current authors in the space.

Yeah, if I can write something and get Sam to narrate it, then, like, quids in. Like, you know, that's just opening the money tap.

It's free money.

And I want. I want to be like. I want to be like, I'm very versed in narrating Monster fucker books, but I don't want to throw anybody under the bus. I'm not going to, like, talk about the actual books, but one. One of the. I'm actually doing several Monster fucker series is I'm in the middle of a couple of them, and one of them. Yeah, one of them, they managed to never have sex in monster form. And so it's not even scar fucking. Yeah, there's. There is, like. Like bug people that, like, switch into human form before we have bug sex. And then there's, like, dragons that never switch into Dre. Like, that'd be the first. I'd be like, you, dragon. Okay, please shift right now. Let's see your. Let's see your. Your goods.

Let me see the dragon.

Right. Right now. I. I just don't understand, like, why we don't have.

I'm gonna go watch actual monster fucking. Like, what are we even doing here?

Ah, exactly. Exactly. So, yeah, if you. If you write a monster series that has even a scrap of plot and. And. Okay, wait. I have to make a side note. The. The. I know that there is a push in the. Specifically the trans community right now in trans literature, like romance and stuff. Kind of like the. Just the quick little weekend reads. There is a little bit of a push to have less conflict and have it be less angsty and just sort of like a happy, you know, like, meet cute, go on a couple dates and then resolve. Because the world for us is really shitty right now. I don't know if you can, like, attest to that, Jack, but, like, it feels kind of bad and still have

a working driver's license right now.

Oh, exactly. So it is nice to be able to read books that don't have A huge section where they're fighting with their family or trying to get through some terrible trauma that they had from when they were transitioning or something. It's literally just like, you meet cute, you have a cute couple of dates. Oh no, something might go wrong with the magic. Oh no. And no, it's fine. And then it's a happily ever after. And sometimes that's really nice. So I'm not really complaining about that. They're actually very cute books and they're very fun to read most of the time. It's just I'm a weirdo and I don't understand why we can't have actual monster fucking in our books.

No, that's not weird. That's not weird. I gotta tell you, it's marketed as monster fucking. And then the monsters don't fuck. Like, truly, what are we doing?

Yeah.

And also, I want to say something about that, by the way, not about monster funking, but about like plots that don't have conflict. So I think it is 100% possible to come up with some sort of driving conflict for a plot that is not about transphobia or that is not about like, you know, real world. The quota. I'm making quote marks here with my hands. A real world problems. That would be like, you know, sort of a bummer to read about. Like, I. I promise it's possible. I know you can do it.

Like, oh yeah.

Because if you really, like, if you're gonna write an entire story where start to finish, there is no friction at any point in any way. And everyone's just sort of gliding through the. The story and there's like no like sticking points any place. It really kind of feels like it slid over my brain and nothing stuck. Like it didn't even grab me. And I saw. I really feel like there has to be some type of plot driving conflict in order for it to feel like I read a story. Because otherwise I'm like, oh, this is just a thing that happened. This is a situation that occurred.

And it doesn't even need to be a conflict between the two main characters. I read a lovely trans story where there's a meet cute and they go on a couple cute dates. And then the conflict has to do with like one of the two persons jobs. Like they're, they have a deadline and like, it was, it was actually quite cute. And then the, the love interest came over and like helped them research and help them like organize all their shit. And it was really cute because it was like there was still conflict and there's still these stakes. Because you gotta have stakes.

You gotta have. I'm sorry, guys. You gotta have stakes.

Yeah. And it was really cute because the they. They had, like, met, and then they had started their relationship and were really strong together, and then they, like, got through a hurdle together. And that was the book. And I was like, oh, 10 out of 10. Beautiful, nice sex, adorable. I'm in. I'm totally in.

So I'm not even asking for, like, the world could end level stakes. I'm asking for, like, any amount of, like, plot hook whatsoever.

That's it.

Just something.

Literally anything. The bar's below the earth. Anyway.

It's in hell.

Congratulations, Mike, on your update. That was all stuff that I did not know you were working on that I'm really excited to hear more about as you work on it and as it comes together. And I'm excited to hear it when it exists in the world someday.

100%. I had heard that you were doing a Regency something because you had, like, sort of mentioned it, but, like, I did not realize that it was a.

Like, a larp.

Like, I didn't really. I knew that you talked about your LARP stuff, but I thought you were taking the story of the LARP and you were making the. Is the drama a LARP, or is it the story of the LARP? Or is there LARPing so there will

be no LARPing within the audio drama.

It's like, okay, okay, okay.

But it's not even taking the story of the larp. It's taking the story, the two characters that me and Lou played and what actually happened. So, like, we invented a shared backstory because we're basically playing two army officers. We're both mages, both unlucky in love. Like, you know, like, we're both in this situation, like, where we, you know, we're in the middle of a war. We find ourselves at home. We're kind of having to navigate, like, social obligations as well as kind of, like, concerns about our usefulness and kind of, like, you know, these sorts of things and kind of getting older, and

I'm already so fed. Like, the food is, like, just outside of my reach, and my mouth is open like a baby bird. Like, please keep it in there.

I'm sorry. They're two very angsty sort of characters with, like, different approaches. And, like, yeah, a lot of people in the lab really liked them because they were, like, this really wholesome, like, gay kind of, like, sort of ace sort of kind of, like, dynamic kind of going on. Like, it Wasn't kind of like overtly sexual, but they were very much in love with each other. That's something that we kind of like wanted to play out and then kind of like what society would think about that, how it would be kind of interpreted, how they would navigate it themselves, how they would conceptualize it themselves as well. And yeah, like, it was, it was just like a really, really lovely thing for me especially, like, it was

a

really cool way to kind of explore what having like a non toxic male like friendship and love interest is like. Because I'm someone who's had like a lot of problems with that in the past. Like, I've got a lot of like trauma around kind of like male relationships. So being able to have Lou there and actually kind of explore what it would be like to kind of like be like emotionally very, very close to someone like that. Yeah. Especially, you know, and. And then like place it in a society where like, it's not just frowned upon, it's just like that isn't even able to be conceived of. Like. Yeah. And just kind of like seeing people's minds blow a little bit.

Man, that's so beautiful.

Ace representation is so important. There's just. There, it's. There is some, but a lot of it is not good. It's not like authentic, so.

And there's not a lot of it either, I think, like, yeah, like especially explorations of it that are sort of heartful and respectful and based in the experience of someone who has like got some sort of personal investment in it. Like, I think sometimes I see it dropped in as like a like diversity checkbox thing and I'm like, okay, well, I guess that's better than nothing, but it's not like a really heartfelt exploration of the subject.

Yeah, it's always like. It's always like a side character who is afab with colored hair and a really spunky personality, but they. She are not interested in sex. And that's like all it is. That's the whole thing. That is their entire personality.

Yeah. Well, I read a lot of really bad books, Mike. I'm so excited that this is a thing that's going be to. To exist in the world. Because I think that's beautiful.

Yep.

Yeah. Hopefully I'm able to capture some of that, you know, the genuineness of the core of it. Like, if I can get that to exist in there in any degree, then I think I'll be happy.

Well, you may forget, I've seen your prior work, some of it and I. More than 100% believe you capable of doing that.

Yeah. I was in your prior work, so I know firsthand. Yeah. It's your fault that you. That I am. Have been unleashed onto the audio drama community.

So I know. I'm reminded of that almost on a weekly basis. Like, people email me and say, what the fuck did you do? And I'm like, well,

you've unleashed him. Oh, God.

Yep. Oh, dear. I'm so sorry.

He's on the list.

So, okay, we've done wonderful, beautiful updates. Do we want to get more serious or what would we like to do now? I can cut trying to figure out what to do.

Yeah, I have time.

So, yeah, I've got nothing pressing, so I don't.

But I really don't want to do the thing that I'm supposed to do, and I need a goddamn break.

So there you go. It's really important to take breaks like you.

Yeah, please remind me. You can just, like, message me throughout the day and be like, hey, Sam, have you taken a break? And I'll be like, oh, yeah.

Have you slept?

Yeah, Exactly.

Oh, fuck, no.

Yep. Yep.

Cool.

So who wants to go first? Yay.

I mean, if you want to do serious stuff, I mean, I could say that the thing I was planning on doing for the next episode, I guess. So I'm really interested to hear from both of you. Have you ever been in a situation where creatively, you're working on something, you've got a bit of momentum, and then something outside of your creative life comes in and just steamrollers you? Like, you know, like, knocks you out of momentum, like, you know, like, stops you from being able to work? Like, it prevents you from doing the thing you want to, you know, for a while. Like, have you ever kind of come back to trying to do creative stuff and found that it's more difficult than it was before? And if so, like, how have you managed to pick yourself up off the mat and able to continue with getting back to where you were before? Because I'm kind of in that place myself at the moment.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can say things about that, Sam. I'm sure you can say things about that. I feel like many creative people end up in this position throughout their lives because it's so difficult to maintain creative energy when it is literally taking so much energy to just get through a day, like, after a different day, after a different day. That's just a thing that happens.

Yeah, yeah,

I know, you guys. I know. I talked about on this podcast specifically that I was having a lot of Health problems last year.

Yeah.

And they. They totally fucked with, like, everything that I was doing, and I had to stop and have surgery. And, like, it completely. It completely destroyed any momentum that I had. And I had to cancel narrations. I. I barely made it through, like, the beginning of doing the sound design for store 236, because that was. That was, like, my huge burnout time.

And.

And I was just creating nothing. And I was really, really discouraged, and I was in pain all the time, and it was ruining a lot of my relationships, and I was just a really awful person to be around. Cause, I mean, one, I was in pain all the time, and two, I was mad because I wasn't, like, getting things done. That's so real. Yeah, it took. I have always been a pretty healthy person. I've been very, very, very lucky. And I mean, blessed, I guess, is the only word for it to not have, like, any. Well, I do have migraines. I do have. I have chronic pain. But, like.

But other than that.

Other than that. No, I don't. I don't. I've never had, like, a serious illness. You know, I've never. I've always been able to do sports, and I'm a very physical person. And so not being able to be physical, like, not being able to work out in the mornings was just gaining weight and gaining weight and gaining weight. It was really rough. And so I was just angry at, like, everything and everybody all the time and sad and depressed. And I had several months of what you were talking about, Mike, where I was just like, yeah, I don't. I don't even remember how to do this anymore. Like, I don't remember how to write. I don't remember how to even sit down and get into the headspace to write or create anything. And. And really, the only thing that helped me was to go back to the things that inspired me in the first place. Like, the stuff that I just absolutely love that always makes me feel like, oh, I want to do that so bad. So I actually went back and I listened to the entirety of Midnight Burger. Like, the whole thing just. I binged it. I went back, and I. It's so good. And then I went back and I watched the entire first couple seasons of the original Daredevil, because that show is just fucking awesome in so many different ways. I watched a whole bunch of horror movies that I haven't watched in a really long time. I sought out new and different kinds of horror movies that I. That I was interested in, and I just made time. I Was like, I just need to get back into things that I truly love. And then I also did. Exactly. And then I also did the thing where I started reading physical books. Because I think I talked about this before. If I'm reading it on my phone or my tablet, I feel like it's for work. So if I have an actual physical. It's so. It's so true. If I have an actual physical book in my hand, then it's. I know. My brain knows that it's for pleasure. And so I just binged all of White. Not Joseph Gordon White. That's. That's mixing two people together. Andrew. Andrew. Andrew Joseph White. I read all of his stuff because it's. It's young adult body horror, trans stuff. It's so good. And it was very inspiring. And I kind of climbed back out that way.

Yeah, that's super interesting. Cause a lot of my experience recently has been kind of following very much along those same sorts of footsteps. Like, you know, like, when I've not found the energy or, like, you know, even the brain space to be able to know how to write, like, even approach writing, I have found myself, like, you know, in my worst days, lying on the couch, you know, looking at the list of things to watch, which, you know, like, in this day and age is always so long. And it's like, I've gotta watch this, otherwise it'll disappear from one streaming service, end up, and another job. And, you know, I've got to try and keep track of everything and stuff like that. And I did. I got to a point where I was like, you know what? I just want to watch something that's comfortable. And one of the things that can make me want to create something myself, like, one of the inspirations. So I sat down and kind of binged a couple of old seasons. I kind of watched Babylon 5. I watched a load of costume dramas. And I did the thing where I started picking up physical books again. Recently, I went to a bookshop and I bought five books, and I've read to you of them, and that's the first time in a while since I've actually read a physical book. And.

Yeah, so easy to not make time for that.

I know. And it did take, like, a little bit of effort to kind of say, I'm gonna have to parcel out a bit of time to go and do this. But it's like. But when, you know, looking at my day and what I end up doing, it's like, well, you spend that half an hour there just scrolling through blue Sky. Exactly. So read a fucking book, man. Yeah, so that's what.

I'll give you guys a hot tip. I keep a book in the bathroom. I'm taking a shit.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's the only way I fit it in. Yeah, I mean, I have a multitask and that's one of the only tasks you can do while you're reading a physical book.

That's a very good point. I say. Yeah, but, yeah, like, but like how much better I felt after reading like a physical book. Like, I had no idea, like it would feel so good and so refreshing. Like, you know, like I felt so much better afterwards.

It cleans your brain.

It does, it really does.

It really does. And like, as an effective escape, like 10 times better than any of the activities I was trying to do on the Internet or like, you know, just. Yeah, it's just, you know, like engaging with like modern culture and stuff like that. Yeah, like, it's so helpful.

Yeah, I'm, I'm sure that there is like a lot of research and stuff into this that, that I'm gonna butcher. But I bet that creative people, I mean, I have a sort of like my brain never shuts off type of a thing and I bet a lot of people are like that. Oh yeah. And I wonder if there's a thing where when you actually sit down and you read a physical book, you have your brain being engaged with the actual text and then you have your hands which you have to concentrate on actually holding the physical book. You have to turn the. Scott is here.

Scott's. Holy shit.

Hello. Hold on, let me finish, let me finish the thought and then we'll say hi to Scott. I feel like the physical act of reading a book distracts your mind way more than like holding the phone and scrolling through, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's a physicality to it that is. And so you have this great like mind numbing thing, but then you also have the physical part of it. And so it probably feels really good after you read a book because your brain actually got an actual real break and it wasn't like doing something else and it wasn't sleeping, you know, like all these things. It's an actual like, ah, alright, this, this thing over here is gonna do the thinking and I'm just gonna read it, you know, Like I, and I'm sure again, I'm sure there's like research that already says that and obviously. But that's kind of what I've always. That's why I Started doing it really?

I feel like it wakes my brain up more. Like, if I'm like, I'll be on, like, you know, whatever, fucking Pinterest or something, and I notice I'm, like, not even paying attention to what I'm looking at. I'm just watching colors go by, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, stop. I need to put this down. I need to pick up a book where I have to actually, like, read words and focus on them. And that, like, makes me use my brain in a different and probably more healthy way. I don't know. It's like, that's a real thing.

Like a focus. Yeah, like a. And I'm sorry, when I say rest, I mean, you know, not doing 400 things. Yeah. But it makes. At least with me, it makes me focus on one thing, and that's like, my brain only has to do one thing, and that is, for me, technically, like a rest, because I'm not doing

400 things simultaneously all the time.

Right. Yeah. But I'm really glad that you. Yeah, I'm really glad that you did that, though, Mike. That's really. That makes me happy. Yeah.

Thanks, son.

Yeah. Hi, Scott.

Hello.

Hi, Scott. Y' all apparently talked so long that my meeting. So I'm here now.

We're happy to have you here. Welcome.

This is going to be a weird thing in the. In the podcast where, like, we're talking to Scott, and Scott's audio isn't recorded, so it's just, like, I started my

recording before I even logged in, so.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

Consummate professional.

Whoa. Amazing.

Yeah, y' all are missing out on the, like, 15 to 20 minutes of riff that me and Mike did at the beginning that we did not record because, like, Sam's gonna be here any minute.

Okay. You're in air jail now. Okay. Sorry.

Oh, yay.

Guess who else is here. Everyone. It's Twig.

You're too microphone buddy.

Yeah. Pretty boy's like, I want to go to air jail.

All right, that's it. Get out. Come on. Go.

This is our. This is our segment of Dogs.

Yeah, I, like, literally just got home, so they're going crazy because they're like, we were in a small room for 50 minutes or whatever.

Anyway.

Hello. Yes, hi. I'm also a person. I exist. I've rejoined to the podcast.

Podcast. Become a new space, new room, new house.

Yes, that's been. Part of the problem is that we purchased a new residents and have been moving all of our stuff there, and it's been that along with some other stuff has just been sort of like a nightmare. Not nightmare. Like, it's just. I'm happy that we're.

It's an ongoing thing that's happening.

Some good stuff, some bad stuff have all happened, but mostly it's just that a lot has happened. So I've been like, many things. Just getting here is my one accomplishment the fact that I still exist?

Yes. Well, we're happy that you're here and that you exist and that you did successfully move your belongings from one house to the other.

They're all just in piles, like you guys can see. Let's see here.

Oh, look at the pile.

Yeah, we can confirm the pile.

There's just garbage everywhere.

So, yeah, the stage of unpacking. Oh, my God. The stage of unpacking, where half of the boxes are open and half the contents are scattered around, and some things are where they're gonna go, and some things are just in a heap, and some things are still in the box, and some of the boxes are labeled and some of them aren't. And you're like, where the fuck are any of my fucking possessions?

The problem I'm having is I feel like it was. Did any of y' all play the really weird. The adventure games for the 90s, like King's Quest or one of the. Or. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So where you. I keep fighting things. I'm like, I have a task I need to do. Okay. I've got step one and two and five and eight, and I don't know where the other ones are, and I can't even imagine where the objects I need to require them. And so. Okay, well, I'll put that aside until I find the things I'm missing. Let me start something else. Oh, no, I'm missing at least half of those. Also, it turns out that was actually blocked by the first task anyway, so.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

Real. Hey. Oh, by the way, everyone, guess who got an ADHD diagnosis last week?

You.

Me. Really?

Because to be fair, that could have been any of us.

Yeah, I was literally looking around. My thought was, well, maybe they talked about this before I showed up. It could be anybody.

It could be literally.

It could have been me. And I might have forgotten about it.

Yeah, Fuck, I might have forgotten about it.

Nice.

No, I. I've heard that story about the person who was like, yeah, I went to get an ADHD diagnosis, and they were like, didn't you know you've had one before? And we diagnosed you and you forgot. So, yeah, you have ADHD that's literally me. Like, that happened to you.

Oh, my God.

I. Yeah.

You're not the one I heard that story from, but that's.

Yeah, no, I'm not. I guess I'm not the only one that. Yeah, I. I got a diagnosis a few years back because I anyway had it for, like, ever. I always knew I had it. I didn't. Like, it wasn't like a surprise. I was like, I should get an official diagnosis so that I can get. I can try meds again. And then I went and talked to my parents and my mom was like, oh, yeah, we got you diagnosed when you were, like, 14 and you tried drugs before and it didn't work for you. And I'm like, oh, yeah. Well, they still don't. Okay.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, wait. That's so funny. I mean, I'm sorry the drugs don't work, but that's really funny.

Yeah.

We're just laughing at your pain, you know, that's how you know that we're friends.

Exactly.

Yeah.

That's fine.

As we explained to the audience before you got here, when we were clowning on you for all the unreleased episodes,

I legit think it might be, like, three, and that's. There's also, like, the weeks we missed and we didn't record.

So, like, is that three, including this one or not including this one?

I think it might be not including. I honestly do not know. The answer is that it's more than.

How would you know? It's.

It's months, so it's all been happening very much.

It's fine.

I'm declaring. We didn't really talk, like, we didn't really have updates through all of those. I'm pretty sure, so. Except for, like, just talking about stuff. So I'm pretty sure I'm just calling a mulligan and I'm just going to release whatever we're doing here today.

Yeah, no, that. I think that's a good idea. Because if. If it. If it didn't come out and it's been like, just sort of sitting around, it's sort of old news anyway, and it's not.

And whatever it is, we already.

Yeah, I like the idea of us talking about something and then it sort of. In the next couple weeks, it's, like, out there, and so then nothing is, like, super old.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it.

So if stuff is old, then it's like we're past it.

Whatever it is, we're past it.

All of us probably forgot about what we talked about anyway. So, like.

Yeah, adhd.

Okay. Wait, do we actually all have adhd, though?

Okay.

Sam doesn't. Okay.

Nope. I've actually. I. Mike's making a wiggly hand. Yeah, wiggly. And I had a conversation with my therapist, and I. And I asked them about it, and we've had a couple conversations, and I don't. I'm, like, the only person I know

that I don't like in the whole wide world, actually.

Probably.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A few. A few people in. A few people in my family. But, like, I'm wondering if. I'm starting to think maybe I'm the one that's weird and everybody else is normal.

I don't know.

There's a real thing where if you grow up in a family where they. Where there's, like, a. A large number of people with undiagnosed something that, like, it affects you, even if you don't have it. It, like, changes, like, your expectations for people and stuff. Um, I heard somebody talking about they. They were autistic, and all of their friends were people who either were autistic or had family that were all autistic. And I. I have myself. I don't believe I'm autistic, but I think there's some undiagnosed, rampant part of my family, and I also attract autistic people, like, the same way. I'm like, oh, yeah, your communication style makes sense. I don't have the thing, but I. Yeah, you. I can talk to you about that.

I see what I'm talking about.

Yeah. So it wouldn't be surprising.

I totally understand.

Yeah. Like, if the same thing would be true for adhd, just growing up in a household with it or something.

Yeah.

Yep. Yep.

Well, so the funny thing is, like, all of the people that I know in my personal life who have it, have it, like, way, way, way, way, way worse than I do. So I never even considered the fact that I might have it, because the people that I know who deal with it. Oh, my God. Hi, pretty boy.

He's so pretty.

He's so pretty. All the people I know who deal with it are dealing with shit on a level that I cannot even imagine. And so I'm like, well, that doesn't describe my experience. And then I. I did only hit the minimum requirements, my therapist told me, but I did hit the minimum requirements. So, like, I'm at. I'm at a lower level of adhd, I guess, than is possible to be at. But, yeah, so there. And there are different styles of adhd. I don't have the hyperactive one. I have the attention problem. One where if, like, there's a task I have to do and I don't want to do the task, I'll do everything on the fucking planet besides the task that I need to do. That's the type of ADHD that I have.

Yeah.

Big nerds.

Yeah. And that one could be very helpful. I think one of my siblings is like, that. They. They do the. They do the. They have a very, very, like, not a huge thing. Not a huge deal that they have to do, but they will, like, clean the house and they'll walk the dog and they'll work out, really, things they

won't do that are not urgent instead of a pressing task that I don't want to be doing.

Yeah. I have several. I have a huge amount of siblings, and they vary from, like, me and my brother, who have not been diagnosed and have asked but have not been diagnosed with anything, all the way to extremely autistic and everything in between.

So, yeah, the entire rainbow of neurodiversity

and gender as well. Very fun. But anyway, Scott, we didn't get an update from you. Should we do an update for Scott?

Okay, I will do a bit.

You're here and you're alive.

Yeah, I'll do the big. It's just more of a status where we're at, not what I've done, because I don't know when the last time the audience heard from me was. So.

Yeah.

Oh, my God. Buddy. Okay. Okay, fine. Air jail.

Big boy in air jail.

Where we're at is that episode one is mostly what I call the rough cut, but the dialogue edit is what I mean by that. That has, like, one scene to do, and then episode two is started with the rough cut. All of the. The dialogue is assembled in order, but I haven't decided on takes yet. So whenever I have my computer, because despite the fact that I'm talking on a computer that's not my actual main computer, whenever I have that set back up in here in the new place, I could start on that again and then move forward. So, yeah, where I'm at is that I am still in the midst of the rough cut. It's been very slow progress over the last few months because of lots of other things going on, but I'm hoping to. To start that up. Oh, and then I couldn't stop myself. I started working on season two. I have ideas.

I've been amazing, amazing, incredible.

I've got a document started, not with any dialogue or anything yet, but with Ideas, So that'll be fine. I should finish season one before I really work on season two.

But I couldn't probably.

I couldn't help myself. I was like, what if? And then I had ideas and now they're on the computer a little bit. So that's good. That's where I.

Hey, you know what? There's nothing wrong with putting ideas in the computer at any stage of any project. I don't think ever a bad thing. Unless you're up on, like, some insanely tight deadline for the current thing. Like, if you're just like, I don't want to lose this idea that I had that's not going to be relevant to my life until two or three years from now, that's still not a bad thing to write down and have.

Sure. The only time I would ever be worried about it is if it's a situation where I can't project. The sequel is stealing energy from the main part, which this one patently wasn't, because I could not possibly have worked on the main one while my computer. Well in the middle of the move. So I was like, well, this is not a problem.

But, yeah, you were at a. Yeah, you were at a stage where the thing you needed to do was so specific with the equipment and sort of time commitment that there wasn't a chance.

But.

So it was going to be one.

I will joke about beating myself up, but I am not. By the way, audience, I'm sorry. Pretty Boy is just barking this whole time. I do not know what he's upset about.

He wants to be on the podcast.

Podcast.

He has things to say.

Let him speak.

I love that he wanted air jail. That's really great.

He was like, I can't believe Twig gets to go to air jail. And I don't.

Yeah, I think he's actually hungry for lunch because I came back, I got grabbed something while I was out, and I came back smelling like food. And so now he's. He's been showing me his food, Snoop, his little toy, and I think that means that he's hungry, so I probably should go feed him.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

If you don't release last time's episode, the audience doesn't know about the toy that Pretty Boy has. That's like a horrible sphincter that turns

inside out that you put food inside of.

Scott showed it to the camera and I was like, oh, that makes me, like, viscerally uncomfortable.

Yeah.

It is called a snoop. The only technical term for it is that it prolapses for you to open it. Like, that's how you load the food into it. Is it, like, a part of it? An itty part becomes an outie part. And, yeah, it's.

You turn it inside out.

I just hate it. I hate it so much.

He loves it.

He loves it so much.

It is one of his favorite objects in the world. When one broke, we had to go get one that day. That's how upset he was.

Oh, my God. It's wonderful.

So funny.

Oh, God. I feel like there was something you said, Scott, that was gonna loop me back to whatever conversation Mike and Sam and I were having before you arrived. And now that I know it's the ADHD in my brain that didn't allow me to hang on to that concept, I'm like, oh, well, I'm not just, like, random stupid. I love knowing new things about myself. It's great.

Yeah.

Anyway, I can't remember what it was, so we can.

Not important. Probably.

Probably not important. Yeah.

Yeah.

But maybe. Probably. Just coming up with an idea.

We did all the things, though.

Okay, good. Okay, cool.

We did all the things, though. We did our updates, and we had sort of a topic, and we talked about hedgehogs. So we did a good.

Oh, I remember.

Yeah.

There we go.

You jogged my memory. Thank you.

Hell, yeah.

Yeah. I will quickly say it was that. So Mike had been like, how do you guys. If you've had, like, a period of not being creative for whatever reason, other life stuff going on, health issues, whatever, how do you, like, get back in it and kind of make yourself excited about creating again? If you guys have dealt with that, what did you do? And Sam had really good and interesting things to say, which I wanted to add to by being like, Scott, you're so right. Sometimes you just have to do the most indulgent bullshit you can possibly think of. Like, whatever project you're in the middle of that feels so serious and, like, it has so much weight in your mind and you're worried about fucking it up, or you're worried about, like, not having the components you need to complete it, or you're at a step where you're waiting on someone else to, whatever it is, put that aside for now and just, like, do something for fun, just for you, without even thinking, I have to show this to someone at some point. Yeah. Make yourself something that's so, like, disgustingly indulgent that you never, ever want to show it to any other pair of eyeballs on the earth besides yours. I think that is such a good way to get out of a creative slump. Just like, make some fucking bullshit that only you want to eat.

Yep.

You know what I mean? Yeah.

You could frame it in terms there's. There's. The other approach is. At least that I had was if you could just do anything, anything at all, like, whatever. If you have a billion different products, project things going on, and this is not just, like, on a project, but just like, when you're like. You find yourself in, like, executive dysfunction jail, where you're like, I'm just staring at a wall right now and nothing's going on, Just doing anything at all gets that momentum building. And so then maybe that means you have another little thing you can do.

And then you have.

Once you're in motion, it's easier, especially if you're. If you have a spicy brain. But the indulgent version of that might fall into that. But that's also building the. If one thing's building speed, this one's building the engine. It's like, re. Firing up the thing that made you passionate about the project and looking for that.

That's what I was saying.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.

Yay.

Yeah. Sam's whole thing was, like, put stuff in the tank. Like, if you. If your creative tank is empty, you can't make stuff. Oh, yeah. Like, watch shows you, like, watch movies you want to see. Like, listen to podcasts. You, like, go back to things and revisit them if you haven't in a long time that, you know, you were creatively fired up about, like, once upon a time. And that is also really good.

And listen to your character playlists. If you make. If you're the kind of person who makes character playlists, listen to your character playlists.

Character playlists. Put that shit on. Bump it. Exactly.

I've never done that. I am not a playlist maker. Oz. My oldest child, who some of you may know, has this incredible talent of putting together a playlist, and their playlists on Spotify are listened to by hundreds of thousands of people.

Oh, wow.

It's really crazy. Yeah.

I think that it sort of just skipped because my. My mother is also a big music person. So, like, I think it just sort of. I have, like, the musical. Like, I play instruments and I used to sing and stuff. Like, there was that kind. But, like, I've never been super. Like, I like to listen to music a lot. I just. I don't know.

I'm never not listening to music. I like. I'm putting music on every hour of every day, like, all the time.

Yeah. If I want something to listen to. I'll actually turn on, like, anime or like, something. I don't do music really ever. Except maybe in the car, but I like audiobooks, so.

Yeah. You are like a words in my brain type of person.

Well, good job, you guys. We did an episode that's actually.

We actually did it. We got everybody

talk about getting anything done so that we have momentum there. We managed to get an entire episode, all four of us.

Yeah, yeah. We got everybody on the podcast at the same time.

Now we should do. Now we should do goals for next time.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Do we want to do reverse order? So Scott, go first. Okay. Oh, my God, the dogs are climbing him.

Like, I sat down on the floor so maybe they would shut up. And the answer is no. Jeez.

He said okay.

Goal number one is get pretty boys on.

Yeah. Apparently urgently.

Urgently. Give him some lunch. Okay, buddy? Okay. I really do have to say this. Okay.

Yeah.

And then to put my computer together and start. Finish the edit for episode one and two so that I can start working on the sound design and the music and stuff, so. Oh, and also I have to follow up with another person about the theme song, so that's. That I can do, like, I don't need equipment for that. So I can call that person and be like, hey, what do you doing? And see what they do. Yeah, Cool.

Perfect.

Yep, that's my plan.

Yay.

Okay, great, Mike.

All right. I think for next week, I would like to have another two episodes of me and the mages working tile finished at least like in vomit draft form. I'm two episodes in so far. If I can double that, that would be great. That's going to bring me to. To nearly halfway through a full season. Cool.

Nice.

You're banging along.

Yay.

Love to see it. Yo, Mickey. Oh, I guess it's me now. Yeah, My. My goal is to support Sam in whatever way. Like, if you need something from me that would be helpful, let me know because I think where we're at right now is like, the next episode or arc of episodes is one that you're interested in writing. So if there's something that I can do to support you through that, please tell me. And if not, I'm also interested to hear about the, like, ideas that you've had for later in the season. We could try and find a time to call, but if you're really, really busy, don't sweat it. We'll talk. Two weeks?

Yeah, Unfortunately, Az and West stuff is on the shelf right now, and so I Can get you some of the stuff that I like. Just sort of. What is it? Free writing? I guess it's free writing. Yeah. I'll give you some of that stuff and I'll show you, like, a sort of outline that I did. But there's probably not going to be any as in west, like, new stuff from me for a while. But I'm so excited to have the. The Bible.

Oh, my God. Yeah, the, like, series Bible filled out and like. Oh, you know what? Actually something I could do for you if you want, is if you send me your, like, transcripts from the west episodes of Unspeakable Distance, I can pull all of the, like, relevant series Bible stuff from there. If you have those on.

I. I might. I think I might have them saved

somewhere, if you don't know, Biggie. But if you have them, I can fill that stuff out into the Bible.

Yay.

Scott is getting trounced. Oh, my God.

He is. He's just being very loved, being consumed. Lots of kisses.

Don't apologize. I love it.

Yeah, it's great.

I love it.

I guess mine is the deadline for the writer's call for Paranormal ended last night at Middle, and so I'm gonna go through those. I've kind of already picked the episodes,

so I have to, like, congrats, by the way, on.

Thank you very much. Thank you. This was the thing that I decided to do for fun that's going to make me happy and that I will rest my brain on. But so I need to send out emails to people who I'm gonna take their stories. There's three different. There's like a tier. There's the people that I'm going to take episodes for for this season. There's people that I want to use their episodes, but they don't fit into, like, what's going on in this season. So I'm going to use them next season. And then there's the people that didn't. Didn't write to the prompt. And so I have to either be like, this is really cool, but it doesn't. It doesn't do the thing. That paragraph.

It's kind of not what we're supposed to do.

Yeah.

But like, either, like, try and. Try and fit it to the theme if you can. And if you don't, let me tell you that this is a really fucking awesome idea. Everything was good. Every single thing that I got in the submission pile was great. Some of it just doesn't fit the theme. So I'm gonna do that. And then we have to get everybody into the paranormal discord and all that. There's actually a lot of paranormal stuff that I have to do on top of finishing the Monster Fucker book and then starting the next book, so. Because I'm an idiot again, I've already been through this.

Yeah, you just got a lot going on, so your plate is full. That's totally fine. Okay, cool.

Excellent. Well, I guess we are done. And we'll see the audience in hopefully two weeks.

Back on schedule an amount of time.

Yeah, fingers crossed.

Bye.

Bye.

Bye,

Sa.